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Letting go of control

Letting go of control

What agentic AI can teach Martech about trust, autonomy, and actual intelligence

I used to think I understood AI agents. In Martech, we talk about them all the time. Tools that take action based on data, automate tasks, score leads, and optimize send times. That’s what we call an agent, right? A helpful script or model that executes a narrow task faster or more accurately than humans can.

Then I had a conversation with Aampe’s CEO Paul Meinshausen on my podcast Couch Confidentials, and something clicked. Paul introduced a distinction I hadn’t fully grasped. An AI agent follows instructions. Agentic AI operates with goals, persistence, and the ability to

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Agentic AI & the art of letting go

Agentic AI & the art of letting go

When control gets in the way of progress

Paul suggested the idea of doing something different. No intro. No big kickoff. Just two people talking.

That’s how this episode with Paul Meinshausen (CEO at Aampe) started and I’m glad it did. Because I fumbled at the beginning (you can skip ahead in the podcast...).

Feeling like a one-trick pony, I tried to steer the conversation toward my usual topics: CDPs, AI, use cases, and organizational challenges. But it quickly became clear I was trying to force an idea, a vision, onto something I hadn’t fully wrapped my head around yet. Paul helped me take a

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